“I’ve noticed that a lot of men don’t seem to care about their lives if they don’t feel they have a chance at dating.”

I’ve noticed this too. It’s perplexing to be around such externally validated people, as I don’t know any women who aren’t driven to grow and succeed for the sheer self improvement and enjoyment of it alone.

No wonder some men are so mad and lost. If your identity and self esteem is entirely dependent on your ability to attract and keep a mate, when you can’t do that, what do you have left?

These men need therapy to learn intrinsic motivation and real self esteem. I’m beginning to think being an incel is a symptom of serious mental illness and identity crisis.